Yeah. And I found out later this was one of his rare moments. And he leans over to the mike. Now after he does this, now he's Mister Cool and he says "Mr. Shaughnessy's here because I like the way he plays in a big band. Your job is to get it all down on record. " And he looked at me and he says "play your way. " And that was the last time we got a word about, in five record dates, to make the first album, never a word came from the booth. And you know something? They got it all down okay. I didn't modify anything.  But man, that's what, it scared the crap out of all of us. It was like, well, you know he made the point right in the very ... because we were going to make a couple of albums for this company. He made the point that this band is going to play the way it plays. We're not going to play studio style, where we kind of don't play, you know what I mean or we modify everything. He wants the fire. The main thing is he wants the fire, and you need a certain amount of drumming intensity and energy for that, don't you? You can't lighten up and play, let the band play and you play like Mr. Wimpy, it's going to sound awful, see? But boy he sure took care of it. But I'm telling you he scared the hell out of everybody. And the main thing I remember was the roar, like a lion [quiet roar] and everybody just froze, you know, just like this. Because you know he never did stuff like that. You know this was Mr. Quiet. It was a great experience.