He took me to the roundhouse one time, I recall, and showed me what he did, when I was very young. [He] showed me how he stoked the fire engines, so the firemen could get it, and showed me the roundhouse. [He] explained that to me one time. That's the only time I remember anything like that. I never went anywhere with him, never did any traveling or did anything. He never took me any places. My father didn't have much of an education. He just barely could read and write, which was an odd situation, considering that everybody on my mother's side of the family was well educated. My mother had an excellent education. My uncles had an education.