Gladys was my wife - first wife - was at Wendell Philips High School. She was a very athletic young girl. She was president of a club. In those days, here again, the social life of a lot of the black people at that time was through clubs. Each - just like my mother. She was - had these clubs and they'd have these affairs. Gladys belonged to a club that had an affair - money- raising affairs and everything, and a social. There was a social. A group of the girls that were together at Wendell Philips High School formed this club. They wanted to have an affair. They advertised the affair. There was a column in the Chicago Defender, the black newspaper, of these different affairs that these clubs would have. To the best of my recollections, through trying to contact her, either to be a part of it or to do - right now I can't quite recall whether it was to play for her organization or whether it was another part of it. I'd have to really go back [? ] to the social organization, because that's the only time I knew about [the] Depression.