And I knew the agents. I'd done business with people. I knew who the top people were. I knew - some of the top people were in my corner to help me do anything I was trying to do at that time. I was highly respected. They said out of all of the people, the managing people, they liked to do business with me, because it was a simple thing to do business with me. I knew enough about the insides of different things, just from listening, learning, being around, reading, that I felt I could talk to them. A lot of them thought that I was a lawyer, that I had some legal title - all I had was those books up there. They're still here, some of the books that I used to get in and read from cover to cover about how this is done and how that's done. But I had no legal education.