Anyhow, he was sitting in the chair, and this brace was reflecting light. He would move his foot or something, and the lights would reflect. I kept seeing this. Then I realized, that's that thing on his leg. That's how we met, because when I'd come off, I knew who he was. I go over and greet him. We sat and talked and became friends. I even was invited to his house. Ertugun - Nes Ertugun - it wasn't Ertugun - his brother? What is it?