I had written an arrangement for the jazz band at Camp Holland?. The musicians - only a few of them thought it was any good. The rest didn't like it. It was called Prayer of the Conquered. One of those that liked it very much was my old friend Ernie Farmer. He had copied it for me. He goes back to College of Pacific with me. Ernie Farmer said, "This is pretty advanced. Why don't you take to Stan Kenton? See if he'd like it. " So I went to Stan Kenton's house. When I came into the house, into the front room, there was no furniture, no rugs, nothing in the room but a grand piano. I said to myself, "Boy, this is the way to live. " Pretty quick, Stan Kenton came down from upstairs. He'd slept in a little late. He looked at the score, and he said, "Play this for me. " So I started. I think I played  something else, just to warm up. He said, "Where did you ever hear voicing's like this? " I said, "That's what I play. " He said, "That's some very advanced voicing. " Then he looked at the score, and he said, "I'll try this with my band. I'm playing the `Bob Hope Show,' and we're rehearsing for it. " I think it was the next day. "I'll meet you at the stage door," and he gave me a time "where I'll be on a break. " He was there, right on the time we appointed. I took the parts into the band, and he ran it down. It sounded great to me. Then, after the rehearsal, he said, "Bring it back in ten years. " I don't know what that means to this day.