Izmir. So Turkey was good. Very good musicians in Turkey. In those days in Europe - and consider that Turkey's almost part of Europe - there's always big bands at the radio stations. Sometimes more than one. Really great jazz players. So those kind of people were very aware of American jazz players. In England and Germany, to this day they still have radio bands, and they're great. They're on call every day. That's the kind of job that jazz musicians want to get. Get off the road. It pays well, and it's steady work. Some of my friends have been in a band in Germany maybe 15 or 20 years.