So it was big news. That was the announcement on that news channel that almost everybody heard. Then going to the airport the next day in the car to go home, Joe said, Dave Brubeck, I know you'll be calling me next week. " I said, "Joe, I don't think so. This is it. " He said, "Aw, you'll call me. " The guys could not accept [ ]. Paul Desmond, and at times Gene, did play with me. Right up to his death Paul Desmond was playing some concerts with me, even when he was so ill that he had to have transfusions all day long. He came to my concert at Lincoln Center so he could play his last concert. He played his first concert with me and his last concert with me. At the end he - we got an encore and Paul Desmond said, "I can't go back, even one more. "