It's the same as it's always been with youngsters coming up with new ideas. I know when ... I'm from more or less the Bop era, and the older guys didn't understand what we were doing and we didn't know what we were doing either, but we were doing something you know? It evolved into Bop. Well the kids are doing the same thing now. They want their own voice and their own sound and that's what they're doing. Now you can either like it or not like it, but it's here, and it's not going away.