Yeah. But clarinet, I think it served me well. I mean I could work on my Mozart with the keyboard stuff work on Bach and fugal technique, and I went to composers workshops.  And I heard John Cage lecture, I heard one of the early performances of the Concord Sonata, I saw the premier of "The Rake's of Progress," Stravinsky. I used to haunt the composer, the composer forum over at Columbia. I heard Ussachevsky's first tape experiments and the first music concree, and the composition class -- I was very interested in writing music too. There was Persichetti, Henry Brant, William Schumann, Peter Mennin, who was my teacher. Just an incredible staff. That's what I really enjoyed.  I sort of minored in composition, and I pretended to be constipated for the rest of the time, with playing the clarinet. But I was like 14th in line for the training orchestra, so I didn't get a whole lot of ensemble work there. But at night I would study Bebop, Charlie Parker, I'd have the radio on and listen to broadcasts from Birdland and do my Species counterpoint exercises, and then the next day I'd work on Mozart and Brahms.