We are just kids. We'll get there. I mean I have high hopes for this country, it's just that the growing pains are tough. It's a huge democracy. It's a lot easier to manipulate a smaller democracy. I mean of course Holland and Denmark, they work better, they've got a tenth of the population of what we have. But we're doing okay but we've got a long ways to go. Sometimes it seems like it'll never get done but there is progress being made and it's just going to take another couple of hundred years and we'll get somewhere.