Yes it was. You know I didn't realize until years later, just how much knowledge and ability that Captain Dyat had. He used to tell us "when you play, play to the back of the audience." In other words then we're projecting our sound all the way, so everybody in the middle was going to hear it, but the person in back could hear it as well. And I didn't realize until I started reading metaphysical material just what that was, you know, positive thinking and projecting the mind and things like this. And so he was about this. And the things that he taught was just even though we might not have realized it then, and the thing about it, you weren't officially in the band until you got thrown out at some time. Because everybody in the band got thrown out at some time. Because he would throw you out for some of the just least things, things that you would think why is he throwing me out for that. I remember on one occasion, this was during the wartime, and I had a clarinet and during this time some of the shops where you would go to have your instrument fixed, they didn't have what they needed. I went and the repairman had put some glue because the bottom, the bell, was broken and he had to fix that. So what happened, I'm in the band playing, and when you play it the saliva comes out of your horn and loosened that up. And I managed to catch it. Because I knew if it hit the floor, out the door. So I just put it down on the floor. So I'm playing with no bell. But Cap could see everybody in the band and it was almost, it was about fifty, sixty musicians in the band, and he looked over there, and so now he came over to me and took my clarinet and said what the so-and-so is this? And everybody fell... he said "get out of here." I was trying to keep from getting thrown out. But when you come back to him he would always let you get back in the band because he knew you were serious about wanting to be in the music.