You know, yeah. So that was one of the things. And then I learned Gene Ammons "Red Top," because when you were playing if you played those tunes, people who liked jazz liked it, the musicians you know. So that was my first direction. And then I started to listen to a lot of very wonderful saxophones and pianos too. Because I found out that it's important to be flexible, to listen to a lot of things, a lot of people, a lot of music. Because you broaden your own scope and it gives you a lot to draw upon and a lot to appreciate.  And it keeps you from being one dimensional. And so like in jazz it's -- musicians, not everybody -- but used to sing a lot. Because this was part of -- Louis Armstrong, you know, and a lot of musicians, Diz, you know, because this is all because music is entertainment too you know. So you learn how to do a little bit of all of it, and then write songs and different things.