Was the mayor at that time. And the bus was on strike, the taxis were on strike, the subway. I had to walk from 95th Street all the way down to 31st Street. We were working in a club in a building down there. And then I worked other jobs around New York City with him. So that was a great experience. We had a lot of wonderful musicians in that band, George Coleman, the other saxophonist, and me. But they had a lot -- it was a good experience, wonderful. You note one thing, you begin to -- that's another level on the business because you're playing in venues that you don't get a chance to be in when you're trying to get to places. You know it's the top level basically. Carol Burnett had a party out in California that the band was invited to. So everywhere that Count Basie went it was a top place. Same way with Lionel Hampton. So you get to experience that and meet people and just see what that setting is about. And it's a wonderful experience.