Ah, I dont remember, I think it was I never liked the guitar, you know, they always kinda ... very difficult to play together, unless you have some kind of understanding. And of course I was immature, Im sure he was immature, too. So we had a lot of problems. But it was ... the drummer ... I wish I remembered the alto players name, but he was a Japanese American, I think from Hawaii, I dont remember. But there was, I think, it was an octet, maybe there was a couple of trumpet players, possibly. I dont remember, I dont remember whether this trumpet player wore glasses, then alto, the lead alto, and Matsumoto-san was the tenor saxophone player. There was a guitar and drums ... drummer and the bass player I dont remember who they were, either. But, uh....