But those were very, very important school, you know, places for me, or somebody like ... now, this was, I have another place about, away from here, its a little small house that I work there, because theres nothing there, you know, no telephone or anything, thats where I usually go to work. But I put it there, but there was.... Quite some time ago, I still had a large ensemble, and someplace, it could be Indiana, Im not quite sure, (there was) a concert. The presenter came to me and said, "I have a surprise for you, somebody wants to present you something. " And this man came with a sketch of me. He sketched while I was listening to records (laughs).