[Laughs] And it was like ... it was ... you can't, you don't have that today, you know. You don't have that kind of rapport. First of all, going one time to a jazz club today, you are looking at, two people, you are looking at close to $100. So, things like that ... it's something that you go to listen to some group that you like, and one time. You know, you don't keep going for two or three times. You can't ... economically, it's not feasible. So it was a very different scene in those days from today. Anyways ... when I started going with Lew, and we decided to get married, at that time Lew was working with The Tonight Show band.