But 50 cents, so I said, "Well, that's, we can afford it." That's how it started in 1973, spring. And he got all the musicians, and it was a ... took about six months to settle down. Some musicians didn't want to put up with the music; some musicians, I didn't think were appropriate, you know, so on, blah, blah, blah. So that's how the band started, not as a working band. It was just to get together and so on, and I thought if I could probably develop my repertoire and I was kind of getting my, more and more ... it's kind of hard to explain, because you don't really come to a conclusion overnight, you know. Sleep and then it was, "Yeah, that's what I'm going to do," no. But the many, many years I kind of felt like I really wanted to express, maybe, a point of view, my point of view, not just ... there's a tune and you improvise on [it], you know, having a good time, nothing like that. But that's--nothing wrong with it--but I wanted to ... my point of view, for example, because I'm very interested and I'm very ... susceptible to social issues. Which is, most of the time, social conditions many times were dictated or geared by government policy. So, all those things have always been part of my interest, and I wanted to ... see, I'd like to think this one is, I think this way. If I were a writer, I would write in words, but because I'm a jazz musician, so I like to spell it out in jazz music. So, I would start thinking like that, you know, and.... So when Lew suggested we do that, and then I thought this was a good opportunity for me to ... so meanwhile--this was '72--I'm sorry, '73. And in '73 we started, and uh ... going every Wednesday morning from 10:15 to.... And doing this, I accumulated a little at a time, the music and so on. And they were coming, everyone ... and I started thinking, "I've got to give them something. They're giving me, you know, to play my music," so I thought maybe I'd.... I knew some recording producer in Japan--basically he was a classical recording producer--but he was a good friend of mine. So I wrote and said this was happening and would he be interested in recording. So he said he would be interested in recording. So in 1974, I think, Duke died.