And I said (sheepishly), "Well, I dont know. " I cant write what he does, and he cant write what I do. You know (chuckles), thats what I was thinking, but he was....   My unfortunate thing was the last time we were having a temper and I said--because he was writing a lot of movie music--and uh, "Do you like writing movie music? " and he said, "Oh, yes! " So ... one thing is I remember Kaidan, Japanese (movie) Kaidan 1964)--that changed the whole movie background music and he was kind of revolutionary with things--but he started writing some for American, you know, movies and so on, blah, blah, blah, but if he didnt do that, he wouldve done more ... music for listening. Its not what we call "cue writing," not that, but we would have more Takemitsu music, you know, I think about (that). But somebody said he really loved movies, so it was kind of, it was natural that he wanted to write for movies. But uh ... hes one of the, I think, maybe one or two Japanese composers who actually comes down to the, you know, level, the international level, as a contemporary writer. Very, very sensitive writer.