I think, uh, you know, I never thought about it til, uh, this woman issue came out--I think it was (Germaine) Greer or someone like that from, uh, England--that started this feminist blah, blah, blah. I never really thought about being Japanese as ... a handicap or as a ... so on, til ... there was a newspaper in Boston. I was getting a lot of attention: I was getting a Mademoiselle award (in January 1958) or things like that, or became an ASCAP member. And uh, the journalist who was writing, he wrote--I dont quite remember the exact words of that one--but basically what he was saying was, Why is she getting all this attention? A lot of good Bostonian jazz players, theyre not getting any limelight," or things like that. So, I thought about, well, we have a saying, it says: "stick out nail will be beaten" (laughs), so I guess thats what it is! You know, and track begins in mid-sentence) it was a big band. It was just the first time when ... I think   was seventy-, say sixty--I think it was 74, uh, September. Thats what I think. It was a Friday night and there was a lot of attention. And it was some paper--Im not quite sure, I dont remember which paper, San Francisco or Los Angeles paper--but the paper, it said, "I question her authenticity. " That was, that was ... so, there were things like that: its obviously because shes Japanese," you know, "its not authentic. " But thats why, when in 2007 I received the NEA Jazz Master and you have to make a little speech, and I mentioned the fact that I came a long way from being written ... about "question her authenticity," to what is the highest honor of a jazz player. Because I think sometimes it gets that kind of things because its ... we also have a saying: "a little bump above the eyes can annoy" (laughs). So it, like, annoys some people to get (??). But if youre a pioneer--I guess I am a pioneer, I think....