Well I had a very good deal in Europe. I, the first thing, I made money, and I guess that's what every musician wants to do you know? So I made more money in Europe than I did in America. Well everybody did but the times were different, see? I guess when I was working at Small's I guess the money was about, well everything was cheaper, I guess it was maybe about the same thing. But I started doing solo work. And solo work is where you make money, see? It's hard work because you play with everybody -- good musicians, bad musicians, all types. But you can make more money, see?