Well I can't say -- I mentioned that Donald Byrd was my mentor. And he instilled in me  what being a professional musician was. He taught me about the business. He was the  first to start that, let's put it that way. And made me aware about copyright, and about  taking care of business. And then there were other musicians who were equally as  important and took it another step. Randy Weston was one of my mentors also. He taught  me a lot about the business -- publishing, and how publishing works. And I always had  people like that to help me along the way. And then the other musicians, you know, by  the time I was seventeen and graduated from school, high school, and I was in the fold of  all the clubs, and I used to go to the clubs. And I'll never forget, the manager of Birdland,  at 52nd Street and Broadway, the original Birdland, Johnny Gary, the night that he said  "all right, you can let him in, let the kid in. " And then they finally knew me as Jimmy Owens.  And when I started to play in Birdland on Monday nights and the whole week and  everything, it was great. But I remember that time that Johnny Gary told Pee Wee  Marquette, okay let him in. For free. And boy, that was something very special.