That's my first statement when I go into schools to talk to a class. If you can't hear everybody else in this orchestra, you are playing too loud. And they'd look at each other, what? Because it opens up a whole new vista for them, and a whole new world. That's my opening statement. And I use his, I use Clark's words so many times in talking to students. I tell them and I quote him, I say "Clark Terry said..." man when we went on a tour together and we were doing the school and he had a high school group then and he said "listen, don't be afraid to imitate somebody. All of us started by imitating somebody. "