And I was in the room that he was in when I talked to him about joining the band. You know? That's a story in itself, you see, me coming and joining him. I talked to him and he said "why don't you come with me and see what people all over the country think of your work? " He said "you're the top singer in the midwest right now, in Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago, Milwaukee, and Minneapolis and Buffalo. " Even because I was working at the Moonglow for six weeks a year or something like that. He said "but" he said "in a little while, somebody'll be saying, hey, you hear Shorty over there singing?  Shorty over there, the men's room attendant," he said "you heard him sing? man oow wee. " He says "somebody else is coming," you know? He said "why don't you come with me and see what people all over the country think of your work? " And "I can't give you what you want or what you need, but I can give you something. " So you know what he gave me, $25 a week. But when I was working with you and him and the quintet, he would give me $50, which was something.