Yeah. He said "did you know..." I said "yeah you know I knew Sarah Vaughan. " I didn't know -- I'd met Ella Fitzgerald once but I didn't know her. He said yeah -- and he was so excited. He said "it's going to take five minutes so before I finish it I'll call and read it to you. " That's Charles Meeks' son, his name is Jamal Meeks. And he's taking music and business down at Hampton. So he's interested in music. He's starting late taking music but it's in the genes so I know it's coming out, it can't escape.