Oh, come Sunday, the "Black, Brown & Beige Suite" This music is gorgeous. And at UCLA that lecture I gave, there was a young man there in the class who was feeling the same was as I'm feeling about this snubbing of people who play jazz and rhythm & blues. My church is not like that though, fortunately. And some of them are doing better.  At First AME they have a saxophonist over there who's definitely jazz influenced, and at my church, Faith United Methodist Church, we've been trying to get a jazz vesper going.  So maybe it's changing but still some of the people who just do Gospel music, they look down yet on jazz as not something God would condone, that kind of thing. I hope I've explained that.