Whether they appreciate it more because of that. No their appreciation for jazz is just like their appreciation for all art forms. They live for art. This is so important for them, to go to a concert. They will pass up a meal to go to a concert. They've been developed that over many years, that whole appreciation for art. They treat artists over there -- they would have given Charlie Parker a city over there. They tried to get him to stay. They would have given him whatever he wanted. So it's appreciation for art that they have.  They'll go 500 miles to hear a concert.