From what we've all taken -- we had to. And what the strangest thing is is that some of the most commercial type bands, we used to call them "Mickey Mouse bands" and even the Rock groups, unconsciously are playing a lot of those figures that Bird originated, and are not even aware of it. And you can go to Bapooh Japan and see a little guy get up and play tenor, and he's maybe ten years old and he's playing Bebop. You know he's playing Charlie Parker oriented music.