Well yeah. We used to consider the people on the outside who had problems with the race combination "civilian. " We did have some problems, and then I got in some difficulty in Chicago because while I was with Basie's band I stayed at the Croiden Hotel, I always stayed there. And Harry Belafonte, we worked together a lot opposite each other. He would come over and stay at my place for overnight or two days if they had room there. And then I began to receive phone calls from anonymous people, "we don't want him around here ... no Blacks around here" ...you know. At one time I was accosted almost by a group of guys in Chicago for playing with Black people. But in the Basie band, it was never a consideration. And I loved Bill for that reason. Bill Basie looked at you as a player. And a human being. And that was it. It's a strange thing too, I almost during that time because, with some of the experiences with the civilians on the outside I almost became anti-White. Yeah. And with good reason, you know, at the time.