That's right. And half, maybe more than half of jazz, was created by White people. And Dizzy spelled it out pretty well, we had ... utilizing African and Latin rhythms and Caucasian and Asian harmonies, and put that together and play jazz. So that was you know a conscious effort to work together, and it worked. So there was no room for a differences of races. Once in a while you might experience that in the music business but rarely, rarely in the jazz field, in those days. It changed you know. But in those days it was either you played or you didn't play.