Oh yeah. I still am, well with a recommendation from Stan Kenton. Things were very rough and I wasn't doing too well and I was griping and moaning at Stan, and Stan says "well that's true, things are bad, why don't you do what I do? Let's get into the schools and try to salvage something from the young people in the schools. We know we're not going to do much good with the older people, but let's get in the schools and get the young people and see what we can do. " And I did. I started going, teaching and doing these clinics and master class sessions in schools, which also instigated a lot of interest in not only bands, but the clarinet. Yeah. Because the clarinet really almost died as a jazz instrument. But we kept it going.