So we would do that, and I played weekends all the way up in -- I played weekends all the way up until I left college and came to New York. When I was at Pomona College I had a gig out on Foothill Boulevard, I went to Pomona College in Claremont. And I had a gig there during the weekends where I played, with the organ player, we played standards, and then there was a belly dancer there and I had a soprano then, and she liked the sound of it and so she told me just watch her naval and I just watched her naval and played. And I improvised and then I got paid twice, when I played at the Mirage, because of her. Because she was the middle act. And so I played on the beginning act and the middle act, and there was a third act. And then they repeated again. And that helped me.  Music has always been a way to make a living also. That was also very important to me, that I make a living playing music. Because I've never done anything else. I never had a job, a real gig. And I thought it was important for me never to. I never wanted one. I mean I used to shine shoes and wash dishes when I was kid. I mean when I became in my later teens and an adult I never had a job other than music. I never wanted another job that wouldn't entail music.