Well, first of all, you know, what happens with our people, right. If you are not a lawyer, a doctor, a dentist, you ain't nothing, you know. Then, Now, oh you get recognition now. Then the thing some these cats, like this cat wrote that thing, they wrote about the plan and things like that, so that put a stigma on the jazz, you know what I mean. Which all cats didn't play in whore houses, some of them are playing in them now, you know, piano players, but not the horn players. No horns is playing in a place So I mean if you met a girl in those days and her parents found out you were a jazz musician you couldn't come in their house. The funniest thing is that didn't have anything to do wit dope or nothing like that. It was just that you were a jazz musician.