No. But he was very nice. He fired everybody. If he didn't like you he'd make it hard on you, you know. Like the poor drummer Morty Feld. He would always introduce Morty as a imitator. I don't know, they must have had some kind of words. And he fired Morty Feld the drummer and I thought he was a great drummer. But Benny was a very strange man. You just had to leave him alone, and that's what I did I didn't bother him, you know. So he kept me, he kept me. And he liked the way I played too because I didn't try to be a big shot, you know, like I didn't try to over play him. I let him do the, let him star.  Because that's what he is, what he was. My father was very good in teaching me a lot of things about diplomacy and of course he was the king of diplomacy, my father. So I figure it pays off.