Sam Wooding was a band in New York and he turned down the Cotton Club, to rather go to Europe with his band than to play in the Cotton Club. That's how Duke got in there. It wasn't but Sam Wooding. So Sam took the band to Europe in 1927, the latter part of `27.  And I joined Sam Wooding and went to Europe with that band. And we, that's the second recording I ever made was with Sam Wooding in Barcelona. And you can get that now, it's now on CD's. It was a great, great band. The band was so great that no other band in Europe could compare with it. Now they were there in 1923. They were all through Russia and all down in Argentina with that band. I joined the band the first part of `28.  And we just went over there and we played all the big casinos and hotels, because they had a very big name, and we recorded up in Barcelona. It was hot as it is now. And the wax kept melting. And they put ice cubes on the wax to keep it from melting. But they came out wonderful. You should hear that CD. Because Sam Wooding's band in  was not the same as `28. One side is the first band, on the other side is the newer band.  You just can't believe the difference. Because he had some great arrangers when we went modern. And on one side was like Mickey Mouse music, cartoon music. On the other side was very modern, like today's modern. You should hear that thing. And I stayed in Europe three years and I recorded with Sam Wooding in Paris. And I wrote one of the arrangements. I studied that too but it was too much for me, too much headaches on the eyes to write it. I think I only made one arrangement in my life, and that was in Paris for Sam Wooding. And that's on there.