Because you see when like when they had the big bands, if you had like four or five saxophones you had to play together, just playing good didn't mean that you could fit in that band. You had to breathe together, the intonation had to be similar, and today you don't have that because you don't have many big bands. See there's no big bands and you don't have, it don't ... there's great players, but I mean I'm not taking anything away from them, I don't mean that. But I mean it's more than being great, you had to be able to blend together, and play together. So that would be the difference between today and yesterday.