I want to ask you a question about jazz. You know we had talked, and you had talked about this too, how that in the early years of jazz of course before a certain time, like before Benny Goodman, all the bands were pretty much segregated, and then he began to hire Lionel Hampton and Teddy Wilson. But it seemed to me that the music was the one thing that allowed people to go back and forth without all these barriers, you know? Do you see a way that we can use music today to do the same things? Because it seems to me that in the past three or four years particularly, that the barriers are going up again almost.  I'd like to see music ...