Oh yes. You know what really happened when I was on this engagement. My brother always comes around. He could really play drums but he never worked at it, piano - Jerry Burley, my brother. He's a dancer. He used to tap dance like Baby Laurence, the greatest dancer in the world, just never worked at anything like that. He happened to be in the club one night when I went in. No, it was later. I went to work one night and Joe Glaser's always had an idea to put me with the Woody Herman group. I walked in and he didn't even tell me that he had fired all of my guys and had this band up here. I'm the only black person working in it. Well, that didn't bother me at all, but the idea that they didn't ask me if I wanted it. So Chick Webb was standing against the wall and I said, "What happened, man? " He said, They fired us. " I said, "Like that, without a notice? " Yes. " He said, "You're going to be sorry because they ain't no other drummer you can play with. " I said, "Oh, man, I don't want to hear that. " But he told the truth because I haven't been able to play with, anybody since except Mickey Roker. I said, "This can't happen. " So you know what - I'm kind of headstrong. I'll go your way or anybody's way with you for a while and if that stubborn streak hit me then you're in trouble. I'm not going to do any more. So my brother came in about 4 nights later to hear the group play. I was so mad sitting up there on the stand. Cat would tell you to play some of the tunes that they played with Woody Herman. They were trying to play some of the wrong changes according to the record. So I said, They're wrong. You've given me the wrong changes on them and you're playing the wrong changes," what I'd figured out with my ear. All that kind of thing was going. I really missed my other guys anyway. So I told Billy Taylor, Billy, came over and play this set. I got to go up to the ladies' restroom. " He came over and I came down with my coat and hat on. I think it was in the winter. I think it was because in December I went to Europe. My brother happened to be there. He said, "Where you going? " He said, You know you work for gangsters and they're tough. They'll do something. " I said, "Listen, as mad as I am I'll take your head off. You better leave me alone. " And I walked out. I left them up there and I walked out. So they tried to beg me, we'll give you $50 more, we'll give you this and that - because they were having crowds from the East Side. They followed me there. And I never went back. That's when I had the offer to go to Europe. Gale's office called. They wanted to break a ban of 30 years, that had existed with the two unions, the English union and tie American one. I don't even know what happened. It seems some English musicians came over here and they wouldn't allow them off the beat to play.