Yeah. Carmen McRae McRae was weird. That was just her nature. She was - she could be a tyrant. But the way she sang was so beautiful. Somewhere deep in that soul was I think a frightened, insecure lady. She could sure sing and play. You hear the expression, the real thing. That's what I try to live up to, the real thing, telling the truth, no matter how hard. I listened to groups that followed Dave Lambert, Jon Hendricks, and Ross. They ain't got it.