It was beautiful. Every guy in that band was beautiful. It's a family. It was a family band. We shared everything. Even on that tour. You were asking about that tour, Big Show of 1951? The three main characters were Duke Ellington's band, Sarah Vaughan, and Nat "King" Nat King Cole. That was really segregated. We played all those places down South. Birmingham, Alabama, was the first one. They still had all the signs up. "Colored only. " "White only. " So I would hang out with the band. I'd be eating next to Nat "King" Nat King Cole in this train station. He'd look at me and say, "What are you doing here? " I'd say, "I'm with the band. I'm here. " He'd start breaking up. "You better get out of here, man. " A strange thing happened there. Jack Costanzo was with Nat "King" <span class="fullMatch" id="match_528">Nat King Cole</span>, bongos. Jack Costanzo's of Latin descent. The [? ] turned around to him and said, "You cannot perform with Nat King Cole King' Cole on this show. " Because he wasn't black. There are segregated audiences, white and colored. They didn't know about me. I had already rehearsed with the band when we got that notification. They didn't know about me. So Duke Ellington came to me and said, "We're going to make you a Haitian. " So, I'm from Haiti, right? I said, "Okay. " He said, "You know the problems, don't you? " He said, "We're going down to Mississippi and . . . " I said, "Yeah. Okay. " Rose Tizol came with us on the tour, and she was worried about me, because she was a dear person, wonderful, because they had these guys working backstage who were real crackers. When they saw me setting up my drums - my own drums - they said, "This is really an oddity. They've got a white band boy. " So they didn't know about me. They were cautious. So Rose Tizol ran back to me. She was worried. It came time for the first performance. I couldn't find my trap case. Rose Tizol was right in back of me, and these guys were looking at me. I got irritated, because the first number on the concert was [?]. That  was a real fast tune. I needed my sticks, and I couldn't find my trap case. Finally I got so mad, I said, "Where's my m.f. drumsticks? " I heard one of the guys backstage say, That's okay. He's one of them. " That was quite an experience, because they couldn't hire a drummer. I had already rehearsed a whole week with Nat King Cole "King" Cole, with Sarah Vaughan, with Duke Ellington, with Peg Leg Bates, with Patterson and Jackson. Where are you going to find somebody to suddenly jump in. Besides, I was featured with Duke Ellington's band. So that was an experience. But I got through it. [recording interrupted] Anthony