That experience with Duke Ellington - I listen to what Clark Terry says, "After playing with that band, I do everything like Duke Ellington would do it. I conduct my band [with] the same motions that Duke Ellington did. " Because he was so powerful that, when you spent a lot of time with him, that rubbed off on you, and you automatically did it. Like he had a way of conducting a four beat - 1 2 3 4 - instead of 1 2 3 4 [gestures unknown]. Clark Terry says, When I got my own band, I conducted the same way Duke Ellington could, because it was so right and so good that I just picked up on it and did it. " Anthony