Benny Carter's the same way. Oh boy. If you say Benny Carter to Don Redman, Don says, "He's the boss. " Or vice versa. If you go to Benny Carter about that, "He's the boss. " They both wrote most of the charts for Pearl Bailey. I remember one incident where Pearl Bailey liked the way Erroll Garner played, especially From this Moment - no. what's the name? - For Once in My Life. The thing that Tony Bennett sings, only Erroll Garner does it up tempo. [Bellson sings the opening phrase of For Once in My Life at a brisk tempo. ] She liked the way Erroll played it, so she called Benny Carter once and said, "Benny, get the record of Erroll Garner playing For Once in My Life and put all the notes that he played on the piano in the band. " Why did he do that? It was almost impossible to play, but we played it. A lot of rehearsing. Imagine picking out all those notes the same. It took a guy like Benny Carter to transcribe all those notes that Erroll Garner played. I took that arrangement on "The <span class="otherMatch" rel="popover" id="other_2108_1437728"><span class="otherMatch" rel="popover" id="other_2108_1437996">Tonight Show</span></span>" with Doc Severinsen once time. Doc Severinsen said, "I'm going to go ahead and warm up, Lou, in my little practice room. You got the rehearsal. " So I said, "Okay. Pick out For Once in My Life. " All the guys started sweating. "Gee whiz. " So Doc Severinsen came running out of the dressing room. "What was that? " I said, "What? " "That arrangement. What is that? " I said, "Oh, I just finished playing that in Lima, Ohio, with a college band. " Which is a lie. He said, "You did what? " I said, "We just played it in Lima, Ohio, with a college band. They played the daylights out of it. " Play it again guys. " They played it three or four times for Doc Severinsen. He didn't believe it. So I told him the history of that. He said to me, "No wonder. " Wow. We made him sweat. That's interesting. That's Benny Carter for you, and Erroll Garner. They could do it. "The Tonight Show" had a heavy band. They had Snooky Young, Clark Terry. They had <span class="fullMatch" id="match_669">Conte Candoli Candoli Candoli</span>. They had Tommy Newsome, Pete Christlieb. They had a  lot of heavies on that band, and they struggled with it. I finally laughed. Doc Severinsen looked at me and said, "You're kidding me that Lima, Ohio . . . " I said, "No. They didn't play that. I wouldn't put that on them. " Anthony