Let's talk about other younger drummers, then. You were talking about drummers. I've got an LP here called The Matterhorn: the Louie Bellson Drum Explosion. You've got two drum sets on the cover. The liner notes describe the project. The other drummer's always referred to as "the other drummer. " But when one puts it on  if Ken or I or you put it on, we can tell who that other drummer is.