Yes. Most of all they understand humankind. They understand people. So whoever you're talking to, whether you be president or a porter, they're still made of the same thing. He's got two eyes, two ears, and stuff you know. And I think that's sort of the commonality jazz musicians make among people. Because we meet so many people, and so I think we're a little more experienced than the average person too. So when we meet somebody, we're involved right away. We see a lot about that person.