Roger Wareham: One is spiritual and politically educational sustenance, and the other is physical sustenance. So we don't see a real separation because people have to eat, people have to be healthy. We try to provide things that are healthy for people. So in addition to the provision of fruits and vegetables, there's health drinks, seminars, we've run different campaigns in the community around asthma, we've had seminars on how it is that the treatment of health should not be reactive but should be preventive, and what steps people need to take. There's always been that at  Sistas Place.