Reggie Workman: Somewhat, but not a lot. During the era of the 60s things were happening, but that was why  The East took off because things were tapering off in  Brooklyn in the 70s. I won't say  The New Muse preceded  The East, but its physical building may have been more luminous [preceded] 10

Claver Place [ The East's building]. When they moved into Armory [ Uhuru Cultural Center] folks began to say hey, these folks are serious, and then the festival began to grow and there was action going on and

people began to see the folks who were dealing with  The East.  The New Muse was still going on, the

building was happening and they began to put money into it as a banner, but the banner became more

diverse when Claver Place began to develop their thing, even though  The New Muse was still

happening. I don't want to say either/or because both [ The New Muse and  The East] were important

at the time.