He tap danced. Yeah. He was known as Traps the Drum Wonder. And he was the second highest paid child star to Jackie Coogan. He was making about $1,500 a week. But when the decline of vaudeville, he had no job. And he worked on the WPA when they had the WPA. And putting on a wig and dancing and stuff like that see? And well anyway she told me Buddy Rich. So on Sunday afternoon on 52nd Street was a place called the Hickory House. And it was a round bar, it was a steak house. It was owned by a guy named Popkin. And my sister called Buddy and she paid the way for me. And I'm years old. You could eat there, so at 14 you're okay you could go in. And jam sessions were about from three to six on Sunday in this big round circular bar. And it was Joe Marsale, his wife played harp, Adele Girard, his brother Marty Marsale played trumpet, Artie Shapiro played bass and Nat Jaffe played piano. And I walk in and I introduced myself. And he's 19 now, he was five years older than me. And I was 14. So he greeted me, but all the guys used to sit in from all the bands on this jam session. Like bands like Tiny Bradshaw and Andy Kirk's band, O'Neil Spencer was a wonderful drummer played with the John Kirby band. And he didn't play. And it was now getting towards like 5:and I'm like what am I doing here, because I have to come to have a steak or, you know, I wanted to hear this guy play. Supposed to be this genius, see? And he sat down and played the last thing. It was what we call a flag waver, it was called "Jim Jamp's Stump." And when I heard Jim Jam... and I heard him play, I said that's it. My sister was right. That's the greatest thing I ever heard. And I just idolized him. And I followed him. Bunny Berigan, when he went, and before that he came down to my house to hear me play. And he didn't tell me but he told my sister, he said "he can't play." And I cried. I really cried. I mean, whatever.