Oh yeah, yeah. Buddy's club I really was not an owner. He had part ownership but two guys financed. One guy, a small place on 64th Street, he financed, it was his place. It was called -- well it was called Buddy's Place but the restaurant was Sam's Jazz Upstairs. Then the one on 33rd Street was a 400 seat club. And my first attraction was Buddy's big band, Carmen McRae and Nipsy Russell. Because I wanted to bring the Paramount Theater days in there. And unfortunately the guy that owned the place was a thief. You know he did tricks. But we had Joe Williams in there with the Thad Jones band, we had Woody's band in there. You know we had good stuff going on there. But the problem with me owning or even managing a club, if you talk in the club while they're playing, you're gone. I'd put you right out. I wouldn't allow it. Well the reason is if you're in Carnegie Hall and Mr. Rubenstein is playing or Mr. Horowitz, you're not talking. I mean if you want to whisper, but when you get loud, in a small club... Stan Getz was playing in there and some people at the table were talking and I'd go over. I'd say "see this sign here" I mean this little card, the tent card. "What does it say? Refrain from talking." And you'd better pay attention there because if I come back again..." And they didn't want to listen. So "see I'm in a good mood tonight, that's twice. The third time you're gone. Now I'm telling you." So they calmed down. And I went over to them, younger people, I said "why did you come in here tonight?" You know, why did you come in here? "Well we're fans of Stan Getz." I said "well see you're not doing yourself justice. You could have saved all this money, stay home, play his records, and yell, scream, do whatever you want." I said "let me ask you something." They would understand that. I said "what business are you in, if I may ask?" "The furniture business." I says "is Saturday a big day for you? You make big sales on Saturday, don't you?" I said "if I came over while you're taking a two thousand, three thousand dollar order and yell and scream and make noise, if it's going to distract you, you couldn't make the sale, right? It's the same thing. That's how they make their living. That's rude." You see? So therefore, with me, I mean if they talk when the band's playing, I'm a little -- who am I going to hurt? But I go tell them, don't do that. Don't get up and dance, we're not a dance band. Go in the band. Go play records and do Mama loves Papa or something. Go there and do it. Don't do it in here. But that's my honesty. And it's not that I -- I don't try to offend anybody, I don't try to be rude, I say please, this is not what we do. We don't do this.