Yes, I started studying first. I mean, I really wasn't sure what I wanted to do, I wanted to play piano or take some lessons, so I started studying first. There was a man, Mr. Habishaw, who was my first teacher in the community and taught a lot of the younger people ___ ___. And he was sort of a beginner teacher, and I studied with him for a while, you know, so as time went on, I got more and more interested in it. Then I left him and went to another teacher who was Mr. Giralli and ____ ____.