When you exchanged words with a John Coltrane, and I'm not suggesting that McCoy Tyner, you know sometimes you see readings about McCoy Tyner and John Coltrane's name is thrown around so often you say now wait a minute McCoy Tyner had an investment before the contract and the playing and after the court, but I'm really saying that when you talked to him what kind of music talk...did you talk about well like I think that maybe this would be better maybe if we tried to play this in a using a kind of quoi fact tone row or I think this is maybe a total of string and maybe the seventh cord or diminished cords did you talk on that level or did you talk more on the jargon of the jazz musician where you talk in maybe less specific terms.